Membership drive baseline document #9

pankajmouriya · 2023-06-09T17:32:55Z

I have added a baseline document
Feel free to raise a PR and improve this doc

anantshri

multiple feedback comments added.

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:08:44Z

membership-baseline.md

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+**Access to Cutting-Edge Security Resources:**
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+- Online library of security research papers, articles and access to hundreds of events and their resources


this is accessible to all

updated it and removed below

Online library of security research papers, articles and access to hundreds of events and their resources

https://github.com/null-open-security-community/Documentation/tree/master/null-Research-Papers

https://blog.null.community/

https://null.community/archives

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:08:57Z

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+    - https://blog.null.community/
+    - https://null.community/archives
+- Professional mentoring programs
+- Priority access to null Study groups


i like this.

link this to someplace which covers what null study groups are

will need to create a reference page or document

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:12:48Z

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+    - Free access to security training programs by - <Partner with learning platforms/companies and ask for free training subscriptions>
+- <Add more benefits here> related to learning resources
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+**Note:** We can not promise the work in progress benefits as it mainly depends on the vendor and their community partnership policy.


exactly so should we keep them here.

Lets keep it here and we can put a WIP or something to say that we yet provide it or not

Modified

Few other benefits we plan to included (WIP):

Access to the GitHub Student Pack

Visual Studio Benefits, providing you with valuable resources for your security projects.

One month free pluralsight membership

Free access to security training programs by - <Partner with learning platforms/companies and ask for free training subscriptions>

related to learning resources

Note: We can not promise the work in progress benefits as it mainly depends on the vendor and their community partnership policy. This may or may not happen.

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:13:12Z

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+- Attend chapter wise security community meetups, workshops and various other events. More details at https://null.community/chapters.
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+# Discounts and Offers:


these are again open to all

Agree, removed this section for now

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:14:00Z

membership-baseline.md

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+- Voting rights in null Global Board elections
+- Complimentary null.community email address
+- Few other work in progress benefits:


those benefits above should be here. like github student pack or simmilar benefits.

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:15:24Z

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+        - BSides Delhi
+        - Threatcon
+        - BSides Bangalore
+# Individual Membership Benefits


we should also make a section for student benefits.

a useful benifit for students could be to get mentorship from community members who put time out for null mentorship.

made a note of this

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:16:32Z

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+- Membership dues are the responsibility of the member and cannot be subsidized or funded by Null Community projects, chapters, or events.
+- Members are not affiliated with any specific chapter or project but are considered at-large members upon submission of the membership form.
+- Applicants give their consent to receive communications from the Null Community regarding their membership status.
+- Only eligible individuals will qualify for complimentary, regional, and student memberships.


also complimentary we have not defined.

Removed this "Only eligible individuals will qualify for complimentary, regional, and student memberships."

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:17:59Z

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+If yes, we come up with an approach here [WIP]
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+## Approval Timeline:
+If yes, what will be the approval timeline?


since we are marking board as the authority for acceptance we will have to setup a approval process automatic otherwise approval's can only happen when board is present.

yet to decide

anantshri · 2023-07-08T20:18:53Z

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+To ensure the quality and integrity of our community, all membership applications are subject to review and approval by our moderators. The following process is followed:
+
+## Criteria for Approval:
+If yes, we come up with an approach here [WIP]


Mostly we should be okey with anyone except if there is a set of people that indian govt would not want to be assoiciated with as we work in indian jurisdiction. say with pak etc we might have to put caveat we will not accept such requests.

If we are aspiring to becoming a global community, not being siloed to Indian Government, we would have to keep the membership criteria open, to folks across the globe. The understanding here is to create a society for cybersecurity professionals, undertaking potential future government projects where null involvement is required, further requiring members to participate can be limited to comply with government requirements, IMO

Every organisation has to abide by rules of the country or place where it is incorporated.

https://owasp.org/www-policy/legal/bylaws#:~:text=If%20an%20individual%20is%20a%20sanctioned%20individual%20or%20resides%20in%20a%20sanctioned%20country%20under%20US%20Government%20laws%20or%20regulations%2C%20the%20Foundation%20will%20either%20decline%20to%20grant%20membership%2C%20or%20revoke%20membership%20and%20participation%20if%20the%20individual%20is%20a%20member.%20For%20more%20details%2C%20please%20consult%20the%20Appendix.

mihir-shah99

I have made some suggestions, however, looking at the plethora of suggestions and improvements indicated in this PR, I suggest first creating a google doc, as it makes it easier for team collaboration in doc gathering

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:38:13Z

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+The null Community operates on a decentralized model where participants play essential roles as volunteers, core team members, and board members. While the community does have a membership program, it's important to note that the majority of our resources and activities are accessible to both members and non-members alike.
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+## Membership
+The null Community offers a membership program that provides additional benefits and opportunities for active participants. Members have the privilege of serving as core team members, volunteers, and potentially as board members. However, it's worth emphasizing that membership is not a prerequisite for engaging in most of the community's activities.


Are we limiting volunteering for the community only to members? In which case we would have to define what volunteering activities are we referring to

Also, the idea seems a bit counter-intuitive to me, that is if a person is volunteering to spend their time helping the community in anyways, why would we want to have them become a paying member first? To better explain this in an analogy: If you decide to contribute to any OWASP project or volunteer in their meetups/conferences, you don't have to become a member, you are actually given a free membership title due to your volunteering efforts.

Not everyone gets the free membership in current situation also
https://owasp.org/www-policy/legal/bylaws#:~:text=SECTION%204.02%20Qualifications

also this is highly debate topic in OWASP chapters also so this might be something for us to figure out on our own.

I have modified the statement, I think we can live with this for now "Members have the privilege of serving as core team members, and potentially as board members. However, it's worth emphasizing that membership is not a prerequisite for engaging in most of the community's activities."

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:43:26Z

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+We strive to keep our community inclusive and open to all individuals and organizations. Non-members are encouraged to participate in projects, attend meetings, join mailing lists, and take part in events. Most of our resources and activities are readily available to everyone, fostering a collaborative and accessible environment.
+
+## Membership Benefits
+While most resources are accessible to non-members, becoming a member of the null Community provides additional benefits such as enhanced involvement in core team activities, increased networking opportunities, and the ability to shape the community's direction through potential board membership. Membership also signifies a deeper commitment and dedication to the community's goals and values.


This sounds great, however, the only concern that I had raised in one of the other PRs is that we do not have any laid-out definitions about what is the criteria for admission to the core team, board membership, etc. (contributions to the field, work done for the community, etc.) Being a member would make you eligible for it, but is that all it takes?

this is definately something we should expand on. being a paid member IMHO should be the base criteria to be able to vote and or stand in election.

Agree that paid member should be base criteria to be able to vote or stand in election. Also in order to become part of core member and board member they must be a member first. The above statement is a kind of high level view of what a member can be involved in. I have modified it below and will add a section of "criteria for admission to core/board membership" later - https://github.com/null-open-security-community/Community-Management/issues/5#issuecomment-2016339857.

"While most resources are accessible to non-members, becoming a member of the null Community provides additional benefits such as enhanced involvement in core team activities, ablity to vote or stand in election, increased networking opportunities, and the ability to shape the community's direction through potential board membership. Membership also signifies a deeper commitment and dedication to the community's goals and values. "

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:46:09Z

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+    - https://github.com/null-open-security-community/Documentation/tree/master/null-Research-Papers
+    - https://blog.null.community/
+    - https://null.community/archives
+- Professional mentoring programs


Is this a work in progress, or do we already have mentors in place, I thought, we had a mentor for each study group. Also, currently, the mentors are volunteering and more of helping out the mentees "pro bono", if we start collecting membership fees from participants, do we plan on renumerating the mentors for their time as well?

We need to think about whether we compensate the mentor or not? Or can we just provide them free membership something like that

TBD - https://github.com/null-open-security-community/Community-Management/issues/5#issuecomment-2016339857

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:49:30Z

membership-baseline.md

+- Voting rights in null Global Board elections
+- Complimentary null.community email address
+- Few other work in progress benefits:
+    - Group insurance: We are currently exploring the possibility of providing group insurance benefits to our community members. Our team is in discussions with insurance providers to offer coverage tailored to the needs of security professionals. Stay tuned for updates on this exciting opportunity!


If this isn't one of the deliverables of null membership at the moment, do we really want to talk about it right now? It then becomes a marketing lead to gain more membership, than listing out direct benefits for members, diluting the existing set of privileges that member prospects might gain

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:54:08Z

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+# Rules & Regulations:
+- Membership dues are the responsibility of the member and cannot be subsidized or funded by Null Community projects, chapters, or events.


OWASP currently offers free memberships to people contributing to OWASP projects, and working as a chapter leader which makes sense to me. Membership dues should be subsidized for people promulgating null initiatives, as that was also one of the concerns brought up in our previous meetings

that is a conversation to be had after we have finalized on the cost. if the cost is reseaonably low then no point in discounting it. but if its coming out to be big number in indian context then we can think about this. However since we are also talking about international membership. I would also be recommending we do regional pricing so effectively someone becoming a member from USA needs to pay a higher cost them someone from india coz of pay parity.

To keep it as easy/simple as possible and think about these later - Discussed in biweekly call

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:55:02Z

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+- Members are not affiliated with any specific chapter or project but are considered at-large members upon submission of the membership form.
+- Applicants give their consent to receive communications from the Null Community regarding their membership status.
+- Only eligible individuals will qualify for complimentary, regional, and student memberships.
+- The Null Community is the sole authority in granting memberships. No person or entity other than the Null Community's board can act as a membership agent or confer honorary or complimentary memberships.


If we have a charter for null board, this could be a point addition to that charter

Once we have the idea finalized on how this approval system would work, definately this would have to become part of the process and documentation.

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T14:58:49Z

membership-baseline.md

+To ensure the quality and integrity of our community, all membership applications are subject to review and approval by our moderators. The following process is followed:
+
+## Criteria for Approval:
+If yes, we come up with an approach here [WIP]


If we are aspiring to becoming a global community, not being siloed to Indian Government, we would have to keep the membership criteria open, to folks across the globe. The understanding here is to create a society for cybersecurity professionals, undertaking potential future government projects where null involvement is required, further requiring members to participate can be limited to comply with government requirements, IMO

mihir-shah99 · 2023-07-13T15:00:49Z

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+# Conclusion:
+We appreciate your interest in joining null. By becoming a member, you will gain access to a wealth of resources, networking opportunities, and exclusive benefits. We look forward to welcoming you to our community of passionate security professionals.
+
+For any further inquiries or assistance, please contact us at [email protected].


This should be changed to a group email ID, such that not one person is tied to responding to queries, and that the concerns can be addressed by someone else, in their absence

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		Access to Cutting-Edge Security Resources:

		- Online library of security research papers, articles and access to hundreds of events and their resources

		- Attend chapter wise security community meetups, workshops and various other events. More details at https://null.community/chapters.


		# Discounts and Offers:



		# Rules & Regulations:
		- Membership dues are the responsibility of the member and cannot be subsidized or funded by Null Community projects, chapters, or events.

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