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The APS style (with title) falsely pull "Number" into the field of "Page". #6785

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xwnz opened this issue Nov 22, 2023 · 4 comments
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xwnz commented Nov 22, 2023

As the title states, American Physical Society (APS) style with title confuses "Number" with "Pages". This becomes problematic when the "Number" field is imported into the "Extra" field. When this happens, APS style (with title) skips "Pages" field and use "Number" as page number. However, "Number" is not necessarily "Pages". It commonly happens to Nature series papers, where the "Number" is actually "Isuue Number". The result is the APS style with title take issue number as page number, when ever "Number" appears in "Extra".

This does not happen for APS style without title.

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This is probably a bug, but importing issue as "number" is also a bug: number for journal articles is the article number, so that import behavior (in Zotero?) should also be reported there

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xwnz commented Nov 23, 2023

This is probably a bug, but importing issue as "number" is also a bug: number for journal articles is the article number, so that import behavior (in Zotero?) should also be reported there

I rarely see the genuine field of "Number" filled in Zotero, except for arXiv or some books. For Nature series papers, the other side of the problem is the publisher puts information like
" Publisher: Nature Publishing Group
Number: 7846 "
into the field that be imported by Zotero into "Extra". The said "Number: 7846" does not get imported into the genuine field of "Number" in Zotero. So if I understand it correctly, it is not Zotero that adds the word "Number" in front of 7846 (otherwise Zotero would have put 7846 into its own genuine field of "Number"). So there is not much Zotero can do unless a major change of customized fields of "Extra" is implemented.

Having said that, a simple trick to temporally resolve the problem is to delete the line "Number: 7846" in the above example, or if want to keep the information, modify it into one line, i.e.,
" Publisher: Nature Publishing Group; Number: 7846 ",
so that the style doesn't see it.

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Number is a valid piece of data for some electronic journals that use article numbers rather than page numbers (eg, APA style calls for separate formatting of article vs page numbers). If anything, this is a data import issue

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xwnz commented Nov 24, 2023

Number is a valid piece of data for some electronic journals that use article numbers rather than page numbers (eg, APA style calls for separate formatting of article vs page numbers). If anything, this is a data import issue

While indeed it may be a data import issue, since other styles, including APS (without title), don't have this problem, I guess it is at least also a style issue

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