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"Gnomish Army Knife" missing "Flint and Tinder" tool component #361

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F-Lambda opened this issue Sep 28, 2024 · 3 comments
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"Gnomish Army Knife" missing "Flint and Tinder" tool component #361

F-Lambda opened this issue Sep 28, 2024 · 3 comments

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@F-Lambda
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With the optional data files included, "Flint and Tinder" is readded as a tool component for starting campfires. Gnomish Army Knives are supposed to include this component, but when flint and tinder was completely removed as a component, it was also removed from the army knives (without updating the text).

The optional patch should be adjusted to allow the Gnomish Army Knife to act as a flint and tinder, as it did originally.

@Grimfeather
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I looked into this, but I don't see a way to add an alternative item, the Gnomish Army Knife, as an option to make a campfire.
I can add the knife as a requirement, but then you need both the knife AND the flint and tinder.
I can change the spell so you need the knife instead of the flint and tinder, but that's not what we want.
I could also make a new spell that would require just the knife and simple wood to make a campfire, but then you have 2 icons in your spell book and that's also not what we want.

Maybe I'm missing something. I tried, I can't do it the correct way.

@StraysFromPath
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I think the best experience is to set the campfire to the TBC/Wotlk "no reagents" version.

Of the progression stages most of them would not have had campfire reagents.

From my practical experience running a server, nobody carries wood/flint & tinder because 2 bag slots isn't worth the hassle so cooking is underused and the campfire spell is never cast.

In TBC/Wotlk Blizz didn't add many campfires to later towns/zones because anyone could make a campfire anywhere.

Like how we have blood elf/draenei available at 1 because it makes sense.

@ZhengPeiRu21
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Simple wood was required until 3.0, and Flint and Tinder was required to make fires until 3.1, so both TBC and WotLK zones were designed with having reagents required to make fires. With this in mind, I don't plan to remove the requirement to have these reagents.

Thanks for reporting this issue. The fix requires the Spell.dbc to be updated to require a TotemCategoryID of 32 instead of the specific Flint and Tinder item. I'll try to get to it as soon as I can.

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